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Sky HD subscription price- £50 per month?

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Well I've been told by a chap at Dixons that Sky's HD service next year will only be aimed at the high-end consumers, who will be willing to pay extra to watch the same content that will be available on their normal digital, but in high definition picture quality.

Apparently, the rumour going around is Sky's HD subscription will be at £50 per month, which as he put it, will basically be Sky Digital (as it is currently) in SD format with the normal Sky World pack, plus three channels in HD, mainly consisting of an archive of US tv programming, movies and sports (such as premiership football, WWF, American football, NBA etc in HD and special events/tournaments like World Cup football, Superbowl ).

So its really just Sky digital with an extra 'box office' like system, with HD programming, except that your paying for it in your monthly subscription.

I dont know how true this is or not, but he was pretty certain and felt the subscription price of £50 was going to be a minimum, if it is the case - than I guess there's no point in someone like myself looking to spend extra in getting a Plasma which is "HD-Ready" -- because at 50 quid a month, i just can't see myself being able to afford it and in all honesty, if it is just the same content that is available on SD ; than it would be insane for someone like myself to spend that kind of money just for 'better picture quality'... obviously if you have money to throw around than sure why not ! :D

Having said that, knowing Sky - what they will probably end up doing eventually (maybe within a couple of years) is take Premiership football off normal Sky Digital and make it exclusive for HD . Maybe even get rid of Sky box office movies and make them available on HD only.

In the meantime i guess if i'm looking for a plasma i might well be better off going for a non-HD one, that gives good pic quality on SD. Why spend extra for HD compatibility when it seems that people like myself wont be able to afford Sky's HD system for quite a while yet, it seems.
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    DingerDinger Posts: 2,297
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    one word.

    Playstation 3.

    Dinger :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 375
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    Interesting, just doing a quick google search I came across an article on Sky's HD, with the following comments:
    Richard Freudenstein, BSkyB’s chief operating officer, has a further snappy comment to add on why the company is preparing to offer a HDTV premium service, probably early in 2006, that will be the first in Britain.

    “Money. It’s a premium service. We can charge for it. Plus the pictures look fantastic. It’s all about enhancing the value of our service for our customers and differentiating it.”

    Fabulous,!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18,132
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    There was never any doubt that the HD content would be a package which carried an additional price, the question would be if the HD package was standalone or if it required at least one other SKY D package.

    I expect it to be the price of SKYworld (£42.50 from Sept) plus an extra tenner which is reasonable.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18,132
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    Dinger wrote:
    one word.

    Playstation 3.

    Dinger :)




    Not going to be able to watch Premiership footy on the PS3 nor for the forseeable future anyother UK broadcasts and the blu-ray film catalogue may take a while to even match PPV movies on HD broadcasts.
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    RagnarokRagnarok Posts: 4,655
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    The movies in Sd i can live without, but seeing as DVD's are not Hi def they do actualy have somthing to sell.

    Sky Sports HD and a HD sky one will still be the main attraction and i still think that i can live without the movies even in HD.
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    HarshadHarshad Posts: 5,996
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    Jarrak wrote:
    I expect it to be the price of SKYworld (£42.50 from Sept) plus an extra tenner which is reasonable.
    Only Rupee's chums can afford those prices.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,899
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    It'll be just like Sky+ ... start out mega expensive with additional subscription, until slowly the box prices come down, and it will be packaged with the majority of subscriptions.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 62
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    Whats the point?? HD tv is just going to be bragging rights as far as im concerned! Im not gonna bother with it.
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    spacepostmanspacepostman Posts: 774
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    Same here, most ordinary folk won't notice the difference.
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    astra19Eastra19E Posts: 2,554
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    HD is very good, I've seen it a lot, but the shops lie when they say picture quality improves. If anything, it gets much worse when you watch SD pictures, especially DTT ones.
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    Dan27Dan27 Posts: 9,652
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    The only way HD will be noticeable is with a LCD or Plasma above 26" in size. Basically any screen that shows the current limitation of Sky as it is now.

    For me, if I was going to pay £50 per month, Id expect Sky Sports, Sky One and three movie channels to be in Hi Def. Otherwise I'll hold off for now.
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    cooltvcooltv Posts: 3,517
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    Ok, i'd be againest paying £50 a month for a slightly better picture. If I had that money to throw around i'd rarther spend it on a subscription to RacingUK, and watch horse racing all day. :) Maybe slightly better and have a few box office movies a month.

    Sorry, just my 2p worth.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,585
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    Well we have HD at our place in the states and picture is excellent....

    I think we would get it but we would wait for 6 months to a year for the boxes and technology sky are going to use to get all the teething problems out.

    For example I don't want a SKY+ v1 box... I want a v2.....
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 75
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    I pay £41 a month at the moment (well, more than that as I have 2 extra boxes as well) £50 inc HD is only £8 PM extra, doesn't sound too bad to me, I pay 6.99 for FilmFour, so for 3 HD channels thats not bad..

    I'm surprised that Sky don't have a HD demo loop running already as Canal+ and Premiere do, because, if you walked into a Dixons or what ever and saw that running on a HD-Ready screen next to one with SD you'll notice the difference! being able to see peoples faces at a football match or in a crowd or as I've seen on HD1, how much crap and bits of rubber there are on motor racing tracks and some of their 'expressions' on close calls :)

    I've had HD here for a while now with HD1 (formerly Euro1080) and some D-Theatre stuff and once you've see it you realise how much SD sucks. I don't think however if you have a screen smaller than 32" you'll get much benefit out of HD, okay so as the high res and bitrate there will be less MPEG noise visible but even then..
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18,132
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    oRiCN wrote:
    I pay £41 a month at the moment (well, more than that as I have 2 extra boxes as well) £50 inc HD is only £8 PM extra, doesn't sound too bad to me, I pay 6.99 for FilmFour, so for 3 HD channels thats not bad..

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    Exactly.

    If it was £50 ontop of your existing package then that would make even the most die-hard HD fan keep his/her money in their wallet:)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 560
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    I have a family and paying an extra £10 for sky multiroom , so i Cant afford anymore.
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    bampsambampsam Posts: 1,029
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    Jarrak wrote:
    There was never any doubt that the HD content would be a package which carried an additional price, the question would be if the HD package was standalone or if it required at least one other SKY D package.

    I expect it to be the price of SKYworld (£42.50 from Sept) plus an extra tenner which is reasonable.
    WHAT planet do you live on?Sky are the BIGGEST RIP OFF MERCHANTS on this planet!!
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    SystemSystem Posts: 2,096,970
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    bampsam wrote:
    WHAT planet do you live on?Sky are the BIGGEST RIP OFF MERCHANTS on this planet!!

    I wouldn't go that far, there must be someone worse out there. But I take your point, even Sky+ 160 at £299 compared with a PVR in Germany of similar spec priced at £229. You don't have to subscribe at £31 a month to have full functionality either. Because Sky use a closed system we can't choose the cheaper box that doesn't require subscription, only a Sky+ box.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12
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    Starting at £90/month, dropping to £50/month later. No rumour.

    Box, expected to be around £500. You will be able to put your name down for SkyHD in order to get it when it comes out, this will be on a first come first serve basis. You'll have to be quick as the demand is high and Sky will not have enough boxes to go around of the first gen boxes. First gen boxes will output HD via component (hint: Sony boxes that have been announced ;)) to the people who get it first when they put their names down, 2nd gen (a few months after launch) will only output via a digital connection that is HDCP compliant. You can use the same dish with a dual LNB (hint hint!).

    Just over 60 stores nationwide (so far signed up as of last month when I last heard from Sky)will have the waiting list, these are all hi-fi and AV shops, 49 of these are Sevenoaks Sound and Vision stores. Over 200 retailers (as of last month again) have signed up so far for after launch. Reason being, the average salesman at the none specialised shops that you find on the high street do not have sufficient knowledge (ask someone at Curry's about HDCP and they'll look at you funny, I've even been told that a HDMI socket is a new version of USB).

    This is all common knowledge to anyone in the industry.


    MD of Dixons will not have HDTV on sale in any of his stores (see ERM Weekly magazine from a few weeks back, cannot remember which issue), he thinks it will not take off. Bet you £10 he will want it after the initial uptake has happened,
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    cooltvcooltv Posts: 3,517
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    howesey wrote:
    Strating at £90/month, dropping to £50/month later. No rumour.

    90? wow, i'd want a picture on my screen I could see the flys in the air and the football players hand palms for that price. :D
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    d2macrejectd2macreject Posts: 724
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    £3000 for a new set and then another £10 a month on Sky World...er don't think so. Saw Sky trying to push Sky+ for £99 if you take MultiRoom, as a good thing last night and sorry, but it ain't. As a digital subscriber since the service started, I don't see why I should have to take a second service to get Sky+ at the same price as new subscribers.

    I'm sure Andy from Sky will be along with the party line, but when the whole country goes digital and Internet broadcasting takes off, then Sky will have to totally rethink it's marketing strategy.

    How high can the Sky subs go before the churn rate goes through the roof? Yes it's great to have the movie and sports channels at home, but there comes a point when you have to ask if that convenience is worth the price, when you perhaps dip into events 2 or 3 times a week.

    Listening to live soccer on the radio isn't the end of the world. Watch out for the new TV deals, when the Premiership isn't exclusive to Sky, watch those Sky Sports subscriptions evaporate.
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    cooltvcooltv Posts: 3,517
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    £3000 for a new set and then another £10 a month on Sky World...er don't think so. Saw Sky trying to push Sky+ for £99 if you take MultiRoom, as a good thing last night and sorry, but it ain't. As a digital subscriber since the service started, I don't see why I should have to take a second service to get Sky+ at the same price as new subscribers.

    I'm sure Andy from Sky will be along with the party line, but when the whole country goes digital and Internet broadcasting takes off, then Sky will have to totally rethink it's marketing strategy.

    How high can the Sky subs go before the churn rate goes through the roof? Yes it's great to have the movie and sports channels at home, but there comes a point when you have to ask if that convenience is worth the price, when you perhaps dip into events 2 or 3 times a week.

    Listening to live soccer on the radio isn't the end of the world. Watch out for the new TV deals, when the Premiership isn't exclusive to Sky, watch those Sky Sports subscriptions evaporate.

    Well said m8, I agree there, but I think the movie channels are the worest
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 181
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    How high can the Sky subs go before the churn rate goes through the roof? Yes it's great to have the movie and sports channels at home, but there comes a point when you have to ask if that convenience is worth the price, when you perhaps dip into events 2 or 3 times a week.

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    I`m sure Sky have done endless market research on that very question. They will have a figure, worked out by researchers, which they know they can push "Mr Average" Sky subscriber to without losing too many customers. Now all we need is for one of the Sky employees on this forum to tell us what it is!!!
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    d2macrejectd2macreject Posts: 724
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    As I was going to get the house to myself for a week, I decided to get some tapes and timeshift some movies from Sky, which I hadn't had time to see. I just about found 8 movies I fancied. That was over a period of two months and they were ones I hadn't had time to see at the cinema or were art house flicks that didn't reach my local multiplex.

    Sky needs to get together with the movie studios and cut the time lag between cinema and TV. Especially when a lot of these films can be got for 3 for 5 nights rentals in rental stores or 3 for £20 deals at HMV, by the time they arrive on Sky Movies.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 224
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    MD of Dixons will not have HDTV on sale in any of his stores (see ERM Weekly magazine from a few weeks back, cannot remember which issue), he thinks it will not take off. Bet you £10 he will want it after the initial uptake has happened

    Dixons in West Quay Southampton has an LG 60inch HD Plasma on display at the front of the store. The quality is amazing. Looks like its running a demo from a Blu-Ray disc or something.
    The TV was for sale as well.. only £7000 !

    Ben.
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