Rock still Rules over Rap

SeSoR · 13/04/06 - 14:10

yeh sure you can say youth like rap nowadays but in sales, rock prevails.
Coldplays (slow rock) was the best seller of the year WORLDWIDE.
although rap is the main key, there songs get old in 2 weeks. Rock songs live on forever like Sweet Child O' Mine & Sgt Peppers Lonely Heart club band etc..

Discuss people!!

timey · 13/04/06 - 14:12

It always will. Rap is tuneless rubbish. The best rock songs are much more enduring.

Tel69 · 13/04/06 - 14:13

Rap is tunesless rubbish but Coldplay should NEVER be used as a barometer for ANYTHING.

Shouldn't this be in Music Forum??

SeSoR · 13/04/06 - 14:14

Guns N' Roses Rule

trash80 · 13/04/06 - 14:16

oh i dunno, a lot of rap is timeless too, like sugarhill gang, grandmaster flash, ll cool j

timey · 13/04/06 - 14:22

Tel69 wrote:

Rap is tunesless rubbish but Coldplay should NEVER be used as a barometer for ANYTHING.

Shouldn't this be in Music Forum??

To be fair, I didn't use them. I've never actually heard any Coldplay, TBH.

comedyfish · 13/04/06 - 14:26

SeSoR wrote:

yeh sure you can say youth like rap nowadays but in sales, rock prevails.
Coldplays (slow rock) was the best seller of the year WORLDWIDE.
although rap is the main key, there songs get old in 2 weeks. Rock songs live on forever like Sweet Child O' Mine & Sgt Peppers Lonely Heart club band etc..

Discuss people!!

Coldplay were kept off the top spot by crazy frog - therefore amphibian based music beats rock :rolleyes:

Rap/ Hip Hop is the most dominant form of music on the planet IMO - I would love to see some stats but untill then this thread is simply a case of I think rap music is rubbish what do you think?

Fight the power, white lines, south bronx etc will never get old

nether will most of BDP, Ice-T, Ultramagnetic MCs, Digital Underground etc - stupid argument

System · 13/04/06 - 14:29

Hmm, well I'd say rap is mostly crap, but stuff that's also popular like Coldplay, Travis, etc is soporific and unoriginal.

System · 13/04/06 - 14:32

BBcomedyfish wrote:

Coldplay were kept off the top spot by crazy frog - therefore amphibian based music beats rock :rolleyes:

Rap/ Hip Hop is the most dominant form of music on the planet IMO - I would love to see some stats but untill then this thread is simply a case of I think rap music is rubbish what do you think?

Fight the power, white lines, south bronx etc will never get old

nether will most of BDP, Ice-T, Ultramagnetic MCs, Digital Underground etc - stupid argument

To get a proper opinion of whether rap music is truly banal, we should ask highly talented musicians. I predict that the majority would say 'yes, it is'

comedyfish · 13/04/06 - 14:40

Hathor wrote:

To get a proper opinion of whether rap music is truly banal, we should ask highly talented musicians. I predict that the majority would say 'yes, it is'

Really? I totally disagree 100%

what are you basing this on?

By the way I stopped religiously listening to rap music in the mid 90s I am a total indie 'kid' now, (however I do still listen to loads of stuff from my childhood - Stetsasonic, NWA, 3rd Bass, Beastie Boys etc)

I'm not biased but most of the posts here don't seem to be based on anything

'well I'd say rap is mostly crap'

well brilliant - whoppee do!

Your point being?

Havelock Vetinari · 13/04/06 - 14:54

Rap isn't even music. Are you telling me the *Rap music is in the same class as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix? Heck NO.
No one will have heard of any of the rap artists in 20 years but The Beatles, Rolling Stones will still have their music played and still be discussed as truly great rock acts.
Rap is by people with music taste by artists who cannot sing. And a majority of the people who listen to it would not know good taste if it dropped on them from 50 feet.

trash80 · 13/04/06 - 14:56

funny, the soup dragons were one of the first to mix rock and rap

System · 13/04/06 - 14:57

soupdragon65 wrote:

No one will have heard of any of the rap artists in 20 years

I disagree profoundly with that statement :cool:

[Deleted User] · 13/04/06 - 15:01

trash80 wrote:

funny, the soup dragons were one of the first to mix rock and rap

nah, that was Blondie with her eating cars nonsense wasn't it?

trash80 · 13/04/06 - 15:03

one of the first doesn't mean they were the first, it just means they were... er... one of the first :rolleyes:

[Deleted User] · 13/04/06 - 15:04

trash80 wrote:

one of the first doesn't mean they were the first, it just means they were... er... one of the first :rolleyes:

well...errr... I take it back then.

trash80 · 13/04/06 - 15:04

anyway rap artists won't be known in 20 years? we already have some names that are still known now after 20 years so i don't see why that won't continue

lordoftheflies · 13/04/06 - 15:13

One man's rubbish is another man's treasure.

While I don't like many rap artist's lyrics, I recognise that a lot of what they say comes from the heart. I also think its better that they channel what they have to say through music rather than more negative processes.

comedyfish · 13/04/06 - 15:14

Abzolve wrote:

I disagree profoundly with that statement :cool:

Me too riduculous!

For a start are you telling me you haven't heard of Run DMC, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J

all around 20 years ago.

Don't forget Rap music is relatively young but even the first 'stars' are still talked about now - melle mel, grandmaster flash, UTFO

So yes rap will still be around in 50 years and those people who pioneered it will still be talked about it

'People still takin' rappin' for a joke
A passing hope or a phase with a rope'

KRS-ONE said that about 20 years ago - still true today.

A more pertinant questioin is whether a rap star will be as big as a rock star? But will anyone be as big or as influential as the beatles? Prob not so not a fair comparison

NathalieR · 13/04/06 - 15:23

Personally i think RnB rules over both

Rap is great by the way, I like it but i also don't mind a bit of rock..you can't compare the two really

Jimmy Connors · 13/04/06 - 15:49

I have never really liked rap music. Each to their own of course. One notable exception being 'The Message' by Grand Master Flash. A classic IMO.

System · 13/04/06 - 15:54

BBcomedyfish wrote:

I'm not biased but most of the posts here don't seem to be based on anything

'well I'd say rap is mostly crap'

well brilliant - whoppee do!

Your point being?

It's based on culture and good taste

;)

System · 13/04/06 - 15:58

soupdragon65 wrote:

Rap isn't even music. Are you telling me the *Rap music is in the same class as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix? Heck NO.

I'll add Pink Floyd, Queen, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, and a few others to your list

Eminently more talented than any rap artist will ever be.

[Deleted User] · 13/04/06 - 16:00

Hathor wrote:

I'll add Pink Floyd, Queen, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, and a few others to your list

Eminently more talented than any rap artist will ever be.

in your opinion.

System · 13/04/06 - 16:02

ROFL, whatever

comedyfish · 13/04/06 - 16:03

Hathor wrote:

It's based on culture and good taste ;)

I like yoghurt

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