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Had Enough: People slagging FF
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Hello People.
I am just writing to let everyone know that i am sick to death of people moaning because the only advice given to them was to download an alternative browser (for example, Mozilla Firefox) - as I beleive in most cases this is a perfectly sufficient reply and solves the problem. Let's Face it, IE pretty much dominates the world sadly because people know no better - and it's a pretty bad browser! I don't like it at all. Nearly all Computers i know that use IE have some kind of program 'leeching' onto the side of it. All the School ones have several mywebsearch toolbars that have self-installed, My Friend - her computer had just had broadband installed and she had started using Internet Explorer. She called me and said it was slowing down so much and i go round to see that nearly everything had been messed up by diallers (she still had the phoneline connection in from dialup ! ! ! !) and dirty popups which had installed themselves in the root of her computer. Format and install firefox + decent AV + firewall later - problems solved! She's thanked me so many times it's getting silly!
Seriously, People out there who stick to internet explorer because it's what you know and love - just try it. If you don't like it, uninstall it. I didnt like firefox at first - It was alien to me. Didn't understand how anything worked and put me off. But i kept with it and found that i was liking it !
Had to get that off my chest.
Thankyou!
I am just writing to let everyone know that i am sick to death of people moaning because the only advice given to them was to download an alternative browser (for example, Mozilla Firefox) - as I beleive in most cases this is a perfectly sufficient reply and solves the problem. Let's Face it, IE pretty much dominates the world sadly because people know no better - and it's a pretty bad browser! I don't like it at all. Nearly all Computers i know that use IE have some kind of program 'leeching' onto the side of it. All the School ones have several mywebsearch toolbars that have self-installed, My Friend - her computer had just had broadband installed and she had started using Internet Explorer. She called me and said it was slowing down so much and i go round to see that nearly everything had been messed up by diallers (she still had the phoneline connection in from dialup ! ! ! !) and dirty popups which had installed themselves in the root of her computer. Format and install firefox + decent AV + firewall later - problems solved! She's thanked me so many times it's getting silly!
Seriously, People out there who stick to internet explorer because it's what you know and love - just try it. If you don't like it, uninstall it. I didnt like firefox at first - It was alien to me. Didn't understand how anything worked and put me off. But i kept with it and found that i was liking it !
Had to get that off my chest.
Thankyou!
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I agree with you. I've seen a few times in this forum where people get it, then hate it. If you're happy with IE, then stick with it.
Personally, FF is a life saver for me. I work on one clients site who has a CMS. I can have one tab for the CMS, one for the publish script, one for the preview, and one for the file manager. FF handles this really well.
I browse any sites I like now, I never see a pop up or advert, it's great!
For both the updates and these pages I use AVANT. Is it right that Avant is related to MS (sorry, not very technical minded) or runs from an MS programme or something? I onl yuse it for these very odd times because despite pop up blockers and av progs and spyware blockers etc, it still loads stuff on my pc that I don't want.
Have to agree about firefox -it's the best.
To illustrate:
My IE window
My Firefox window
Now what's so difficult about that?
It's this sort of thing that people get annoyed about. I use FF so everyone else must. I actually DO use it, but there are issues with it, as well as the other browsers. Whatever people find best for their needs is OK by me. This "FF solves everyone's problems" attitude is indicative of a very defensive mindset, IMNSHO.
(I've heard you use haggis to power your computers up in aberdeen)
Self installed? Installed WITH user interaction more like.
Perhaps the system administrators need to learn a thing or two about tieing down their systems. At college, we can't install any ActiveX controls as students and have never had this problem in IE.
I went to that mistyped Google link and although my screen filled with popups asking me to install various crap, I clicked cancel or no to all of them and nothing installed. A brain and reading skills go far when using a computer. You can change browsers all you like but if you download an execute a file which is a hidden dialler/spyware/adware/virus app in then you're screwed. Firefox won't come to the rescue there. :rolleyes:
If there is one thing I hate most, then it has to be that those that come along and say "Get Firefox" to every problem that someone has in IE. If you take the analogy that IE is your pet cat, if you look after it, it will still be alive and working well (i.e. IE will be free of mywebsearch toolbars) but if you don't look after it, then it will become ridden with fleas.
I think Firefox needs a bit done to it before it actually becomes user friendly. I was using Firefox on a site which has loads of popups and windows asking me to install crapware and trying to download files which I wanted to save to different directories each time. However Firefox has no ability to be able to switch download directories on the fly like IE can. It dumps everything in one directory. Grrr ...
Also, Firefox needs to carry a warning on it with "not for old computers". It might take only about 10 seconds max to load on my new computer which has a P4 3.2GHz processor, but it took at least a minute on my old computer, a lowly 500MHz celeron.
Both browsers have their strengths and weaknesses. I hate it when people just bash something for the sake of it - just because it is produced by a certain company and because it is the defacto standard.
Would you like it if everyone replied "Get Linux", "Get FreeBSD", "Get a Mac" to every Windows problem people had?
I just downloaded a luna theme and it matches the rest of windows. Great!
http://www.intraplanar.net/project/luna/
I just had a quick look in google and this came up.........
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/56/
It puts an option for full screen in the context (Right click) menu and it works with the latest version of firefox!
Maybe that'll do??
Tools > Downloads > Ask me where to save every file
...Unless I misunderstood what you meant, that is...
Or you could just press F11.
Where?
Unless I'm being very blonde, I can't see an option for this in the tools menu.
Tools > Options > Downloads
Or that, just the context menu means you only need to use one hand.
Why does pressing F11 require two hands? Using that only requires one finger
If IE was able to block pop ups more effectively and had tabbed browsing then i would be all for it, as it is though that is prolly years off, if at all.
What theme is that your using??
I can't do that either - because I also have MSN Premium installed it decides to open that.
I'm using MSN Messenger 7 BETA so this may be something they will add (if a legal requirement) when it is released. I have an extension that allowes links in hotmail email to open in a new tab but that really has noting to do with your problem! Lol.
For example, someone asked 'How can I get my address bar back? I can see the word 'address' to the right of my links but I can't get it back'. Now how is 'get firefox' (which was the first 3 responces) going to help that person??? OK, stick it in as an afterthought or suggest it along the way but I was the 4th reply and it was the first one that actually attempted to answer the question.
We aren't slagging off firefox (mainly) we are just pointing out that any question that has IE in it shouldn't have an answer of 'get firefox'.
I agree.
If somebody went into a PC repair shop and were told that the only solution to their problem would be to buy a new PC then I don't think the person would go back.
Oops! That'll teach not to do these things from memory.
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