Philips DVDR9000H HDMI 400GB DVB-T
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I found some info on the new DVD-R9000H
quotes :-
"Philips DVDR9000H Hard Disk/DVD Recorder with Pixel Plus and built-in digital TV tuner"
"The Philips Cineos DVDR9000H Hard Disk-/DVD-Recorder is a flexible platform for home entertainment. It has a stylish design and offers 400GB storage capacity and a DVB-T receiver."
also has
- HDMI and upscaling using Pixel Plus technology
- Dual layer capability
- DVB-T tuner and Analog
- Also some sites mention Guide Plus as well
http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/D9750497A5D0E43BC1257059003CE18C?OpenDocument
I also noticed you seem to be able to order it from German site below, already, price is 804 Euros (about £545) and they will ship to the UK. I wonder if the DVB-T will work in UK?
http://www.computeruniverse.net/groups/p2/e30000649/standalone_recorder.asp
other links I found :-
https://www.digitaldirectuk.com/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=9138
http://www.soundandvisiononline.com/moreinfo/index.asp?product_id=9138
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quotes :-
"Philips DVDR9000H Hard Disk/DVD Recorder with Pixel Plus and built-in digital TV tuner"
"The Philips Cineos DVDR9000H Hard Disk-/DVD-Recorder is a flexible platform for home entertainment. It has a stylish design and offers 400GB storage capacity and a DVB-T receiver."
also has
- HDMI and upscaling using Pixel Plus technology
- Dual layer capability
- DVB-T tuner and Analog
- Also some sites mention Guide Plus as well
http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/D9750497A5D0E43BC1257059003CE18C?OpenDocument
I also noticed you seem to be able to order it from German site below, already, price is 804 Euros (about £545) and they will ship to the UK. I wonder if the DVB-T will work in UK?
http://www.computeruniverse.net/groups/p2/e30000649/standalone_recorder.asp
other links I found :-
https://www.digitaldirectuk.com/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=9138
http://www.soundandvisiononline.com/moreinfo/index.asp?product_id=9138
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Mind you, they also say "MP3 (MPEG-3) playback", so it's anyone's guess what's actually on board...
Still not really what we want, is it? It's just a single tuner PVR with record. Two years ago, maybe, but now we want two tuners at least or it's just another box to add to the stack.
Let's rephrase that. It doesn't replace my Toppy, just adds another box.
<OT> right back to waiting though possibly not for much longer as it seems by pace 210 box has taken a disliking to the BBC channels either that or they've switch the broadcast power to really rubbish </OT>
Although 2 tuners would be nice, for me that is not essential. Provided it has the ability to play a previous recording and the ability to watch another programme at the same time that would be sufficient for me. What would be much more important for me was that it does it's job reliably, which appears to be something lacking in the currently available twin tuner PVR's. Maybe the major DVD/HDD manufacturers can do a better job of this given their design resources? Having the capability of producing removable media in the same box is also a useful feature. It may be that DVD/HDD recorders eventually will provide better PVR type functionality than the current PVR's. For example Pioneer already implement the advert skipping capability better than the current PVR's (with the possible exception of Topfield using a TAP).
Colin
Or it will be, until you've lived with one for a year or two, realised it's limitations, and then Philips (or another "major" manufacturer) replace it with a twin tuner version. Ten to one you'd run out and buy it, and your expensive big brand "first" PVR would get quietly shuffled out of the way..
Once you own a twin tuner, you'd never go back to a single tuner PVR, no matter who made it. It's a massive step backwards.
Didn't work for Panasonic, did it? The fact is Freeview PVR's are very complex pieces of kit, and nobody has made one 100% fault free - but then nobody, including any of the big names, has delivered a 100% perfect single tuner Freeview box either - especially Philips, whose track record with the DTR series is nothing short of atrocious (I actually quite liked the DTR1500, but their support for it was hopeless, and everything since then has been worse). Personally, if I was looking to buy any DTT PVR in the future, then I'd probably look to one of the companies that already have practical experience in the field - not a first timer.
Cliff
(oops, should have read Boinng's post before I posted that - great minds!)
As my only hands on experience of a PVR was a week with a Humax 8000T I can't be certain I would be happy indefinitely with a single tuner. But why do you think there is a "massive" step between single and twin tuner? On the rare occasions when there would be a clash between two programmes I would be interested in, I could record one on the PVR and watch or record the other using other equipment (which I already have). The loss of PVR facilities on the second programme would only be a minor issue for me on the rare occasions this was necessary.
No it didn't, which surprised me. Had their PVR been reliable I would have been inclined to suspect that the problem with the "other" PVR's was simply the 4TV software or manufacturer capability.
I can accept something less than 100%. But IMO (based largely on reading forums such as this) the problems with the currently available twin tuner PVR's compared to the alternatives are much more significant. The significant probability of box crashes resulting in lost or failed recordings is a basic limitation. If this is due to having two tuners rather than one then I would give up the second tuner. If it is due to the differences in the technology or capability between the different manufacturers I would choose the more reliable provided this did not result in un-acceptable loss of functionality.
Colin
Yes I had hoped for better from Panasonic. It will be interesting to see if the any of the new Freeview/DVD/HDD recorders prove to be significantly more reliable than the currently available PVR's. At some stage as they include more of the functionality of the current PVR's they should be called DTT-PVR/DVD/HDD Recorders?
I still have hopes that the Humax 9200 will get it right.
Colin
(I have a feeling that if Sony ever do a PVR it will be faultless, under featured and over priced but faultless!)
http://www.azone.ch/load-index.html?Philips-DVDR9000H.htm
http://www.ifa.philips.com/products/star1.html
or direct
http://www.ifa.philips.com/downloads/L&B_Philips_Cineos9000_range.zip
see last PDF in the zip.
This confirms that DVDR9000H DOES RECORD DOLBY DIGITAL 5.1
Lets just hope this applies to UK models
The connections confirm there is Digital IN as well as OUT
Also it looks like the DVDR9000H is the first to have integrated DVB Terrestial and GuidePlus
Anyone know if this PDF is for a particular country ?
Note (for the second time) that Philips machines released in other countries differ substantially in their capabilities.
I've had a look at your links. German site is interesting. I've e-mailed Philips to ask about UK release and spec.
Digital Direct shows recording to -R/-RW
and doesn't mention +R/+RW although it does say multiformat. Are Philips now on the same playing-field as Sony?
We'll see.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=150180
Single report on a different machine, but again supposed to be multiformat. Note the quality of the Philips technical advice in this instance, which has never been great.
It's the confusion between what's in the manual and what's merely stuck on the box that's a confidence-sapper.
"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H is set to
be released on the 07th of December 2005.
We trust that the information provided will be of assistance."
According to the Google translation of the heading on this Swiss site http://www.dvdupgrades.ch/657030343232363937/DVD/DVDrecorder/Philips/Philips_Dvdr9000h_10_erst_wieder_ab_M_rz_2006_erh_ltlich.html it will be available in March 2006 there. Hope this does not mean it will be delayed in the UK.
John Daniels
"With regards to your query we can advise that the DVDR9000H/10 will be
released mid December"
Hopefully this year!
http://www.dcsat.co.uk/loewe_peri_item.asp?product_id=345
Whilst this one doesn't list a price but indicates a January 2006 release
http://www.cheapelectricals.co.uk/acatalog/Philips_DVDR9000_DVDR9000_DVDR9000_DVDR9000.html
Wait just a little longer.........
John Daniels :cool:
Philips replaced 05 to use 10 for using full feature like DVDR9000H -- it changed from end of 2005 as it begin from 2006. So you can order and you will expect to get one in few week time.
It would be a mistake to recommend this machine for the UK until, as Rhubarbe pointed out in post #4 of this thread, we know it will accept DVB-T QAM64 modulation.