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Bought one of these today and it seems pretty good overall. However I have a few issues as follows :
1, Firmware 1.08, is this the latest ?
2, Navigation via the guide seems quite clunky. So to use the box as a day to day tuner might not be the best idea. Or you have the channel up and down buttons. You could put the channel number in directly but see below.
3, I get Freeview from Mendip and Wales. Mendip signal is alot strong than the welsh signal. However on tuning the Panny in it puts BBC 1 Wales as #1 and so on. The mendip channels are channel 800 plus. Sony and Pioneer Freeview box off the same signal work this out correctly !
Easy you'd think, manually tune the digital channel...no options.
Delete channels....again no options
Move channels....again no option
Re-number channels.......again no option.
You can do all the above on analogue channels. This is useless situation. I will be calling Panasonic asap but has anyone else had this problem ? This is only caused by the limited options on the software
You can set channel profiles, sort of like favorites I think. However unlike favorites on my pioneer has no bearing on where they appear when you change channels.
Overall a great machine so far but the limited digital tuning options make it a disappointing purhases. Even a cheapy £30 box from Tesco give me more channel control
1, Firmware 1.08, is this the latest ?
2, Navigation via the guide seems quite clunky. So to use the box as a day to day tuner might not be the best idea. Or you have the channel up and down buttons. You could put the channel number in directly but see below.
3, I get Freeview from Mendip and Wales. Mendip signal is alot strong than the welsh signal. However on tuning the Panny in it puts BBC 1 Wales as #1 and so on. The mendip channels are channel 800 plus. Sony and Pioneer Freeview box off the same signal work this out correctly !
Easy you'd think, manually tune the digital channel...no options.
Delete channels....again no options
Move channels....again no option
Re-number channels.......again no option.
You can do all the above on analogue channels. This is useless situation. I will be calling Panasonic asap but has anyone else had this problem ? This is only caused by the limited options on the software
You can set channel profiles, sort of like favorites I think. However unlike favorites on my pioneer has no bearing on where they appear when you change channels.
Overall a great machine so far but the limited digital tuning options make it a disappointing purhases. Even a cheapy £30 box from Tesco give me more channel control
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I'm fortunate that it's only picking up my local transmitter, but I'd still like to remove the PPV channels that I can't view.
I have one misgiving, and that is I tried looping a Sky Digibox through the recorder, since this is the suggested way to do it from the manual, but.... If you place the machine in the timer mode when the timer starts up, it switches the image to what it's recording.
What use is that? Surely most people would want to use it like a VCR and watch whats on SKY while it's recording, but since the box grabs control of the signal, that's out of the question..
I have sort of got around it by hooking it up using the component out.svid/scart to my TV (which has component inputs), at least then when it turns on I can manually switch the sky box on and off again to revert back to Sky, but of course I have lost the ability to record in RGB from the Digibox...
Anyone out there got around this? Or maybe I am just being thick!
Patrick
Worcs...
The loop-thru issue seems a bit lame. I was going to loop my dvd/divx player RGB thru but your saying if I record while doing this I see the Panny not the thru signal. It does seem silly. Once I get my tuning issues sorted and install properly I'll play some more.
It appears that the RGB out and S-Video/Component out, switching operates differently... i.e. With RGB out the Panny switches the Tv to the RGB scart when the power is switched on, i.e you can watch Freeview immediately... With SVideo/Component out, it only sends the switching signal to the appropriate scart when you press 'Guide' (i.e the EPG) or 'Navigator' or play, id doesn't when switched on - just like a VCR...
I have emailed Panasonic for advice and will let you know what they say..
I suppose thinking about it logically, most people would buy it to watch Freeview on and occasional recording.. You'd think they would at least give you option to choose whether it behaves like a Freeview box or a VCR...
Patrick
Worcs..
Joy ! :-\
Also, when your in the EPG you can't get programme info. You can only get it from the now/next banner.
Surely, Panasonic can do a software update for this!
But other than that and the other points raised this a decent recorder ?
Recorded picture quality is excellent in XP (2 hr mode) and not half bad in LP (4hr mode), especially using the in built Freeview tuner.
The menus are sensibly laid out and straightforward, although the Freeview guide is a bit clunky if your used to using Sky's EPG.
It's good value considering you can get if for £180 now (Curry's & Comet).
Thanks for that, I'm freeview all round, so am used to the vagueries (if there is such a word) of their EPG's. I presume the chase play facility behaves itself...
You can reorder the channels till your heart is content using the (4) profile options. having done this and selected your preferred option, each time you return to EPG listing this chosen profile will be shown, by default, but I agree its not the best EPG I've seen, and I reckon I've seen a few, I've done nothing but take stuff back this year. I've ended up with this and the Fussion 200 and am, for now, pleased with both ! Happy Christmas everyone and thanks for the Info I have gained in these forums.
1 Instructions hard to follow - interface totally baffling
2 Tried to copy from the hard disk of the Pace. It ran for 9 minutes then the Panasonic gave up with an error saying it could not continue recording (the Pace was still shipping out its signal because you could see it in the background). Further attempts to record would not even start.
3 Panasonic machine now switches off after a few minutes every time. There is nothing in the instructions about this.
So it's going back to Richer Sounds. Trouble is, there don't seem to be any better machines out there - anyone with experience of a Sony?
http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/download_schedule.pl
Patrick
Worcs
A relative has the Panny TUCT-30, which AFAIK does retrieve programme info for any time in the EPG, so I'm confident a SW upgrade could fix this.
Has anyone had this problem though: I keep setting my TV connection to 4:3 Letterbox in the setup menu, but after the box is turned off for a long time (typically overnight) it seems to have forgotten the setting. You turn it on and channels normally broadcast in widescreen are suddenly back in 4:3 centre cutout, while channels like ITV2/E4 actually have the aspect ratio slightly wrong with black bars all round the screen.
A look at the settings menu still suggests it's set to 4:3 Letterbox, but if you re-save this setting hey presto everything's back to Letterbox and it's fixed.
It also seems to forget which profile you were in if it's turned off for a long time (I don't use the 'all services' profile - why would you want a profile with TUTV channels the box is incapable of receiving in it!!??) - again I don't know if this is just me or a common problem.
If this is happening to other people hopefully it can be fixed in the SW upgrade as it's a trifle annoying.
I'm using version 1.08 by the way.
And now down to £140 at TotalDigital in Birmingham!
Any experience of this retailer, anyone?
How can a MUTE button be ommitted?!
Still cheaper at Currys, delivered:http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=6840089&postcount=33
Well spotted! But it's region 2 and the Birmingham one says it's multi-region. Is there a hack?
No see :http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=6654477&postcount=5
Yes, both John Lewis and Richer sounds have put their prices up since the begining of January. Multi region is not an issue for me, I use mine for time sliping Radio (8 hour EP and 16 timers is quite adequate and you can listen to one while your recording another) and the not infrequent occasions when at 9.00 in the evening there are more than 2 tv progs I would like to see (The fussion 200 looks after the rest) If you go for one, then see http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=6679565&postcount=1 for best price RAM DVD, they're in stock now, mine have just arrived.