setanta dont do 16:9 widescreen as you say, and they will never have HD. i think setanta are crap in comparason with sky. I know Sky will show all the 92 games in HD - setanta wont even show their 47 in 16:9 - shows who wants to spend money eh
Yep.
I would have liked the PL to tag the HD provision onto their content packages, barring that at least force 16:9 onto any broadcaster interested in bidding.
However the mighty EU who have no interest in footy except as a means to impose their will on the UK probably would have blocked any restriction that may have favoured a forwarding thinking and major investor such as SKY.
Then again it would have made things easier for the BBC to get a package.
Come the 2007/08 season the amount of HD footy will drop unless Setanta drastically change their current policy, if not then then hardly progress either in coverage or access.
Come the 2007/8 season Sky will be showing 92 games compaired to the current 88 games, so Sky have more games available for HD. As for Setanta, I hope that they at least discover widescreen technology before the season starts HD may follow but would require huge cost which would have to come through subscriptions. The Setanta package is currently £14 per month, watch that go up next year when prem games start :eek:
By 2007 I would expect Setanta to be in Widescreen, seeing as they are looking into moving into newer Broadcasting Facilites which will allow Widescreen, and also likely at least 1 of the Setanta Sports UK channels going full time. At present some things are just not possible.
As for HD it will be a while, Setanta don't have the funds compared to the mighty BBC and BSKYB. For me though I'am glad in a way cause I already have Setanta, so likely will not need to pay a Prem Plus Charge, though the quality on Prem Plus is great, likely with the new package deal everyone misses some quality because Prem Plus operates at a Higher Bitrate than Sky Sports.
Setanta certainly have money, if they we're able to afford 2 of the packages. And they will definitley get alot more money from advertising, its also not until the 2007/2008 season so they have plenty of time to upgrade to HD capabilities.
Setanta certainly have money, if they we're able to afford 2 of the packages. And they will definitley get alot more money from advertising, its also not until the 2007/2008 season so they have plenty of time to upgrade to HD capabilities.
Just like SKY they have spent money they don't actually have yet, the cost of the footy will come out of the extra subscriptions they expect to generate.
The same business model was used by ITV Digital and well we know what happended there:)
The only way this could ever have been better for the consumer is if one of the packages had to be on free to air.
No, Setanta having packages is better for the consumer. It means that those who can't afford a Sky subscription are now able to watch live Premiership football.
No, Setanta having packages is better for the consumer. It means that those who can't afford a Sky subscription are now able to watch live Premiership football.
What f***ing planet are you on - Setanta is a PPV channel at present - they are more liekly to increase there charges per month than make them free. :mad:
- Setanta is a PPV channel at present - they are more liekly to increase there charges per month than make them free. :mad:
Setant isn't just a PPV channel. Currently, they offer 7 channels for £14/month, which you can get without a Sky (or cable) subscription. I can't see that increasing too much, even with EPL rights.
Setant isn't just a PPV channel. Currently, they offer 7 channels for £14/month, which you can get without a Sky (or cable) subscription. I can't see that increasing too much, even with EPL rights.
Well they have to pay for the £390m some how, and now they have these rights they will have some bargaining power to increase their charges.
How do you receive it without a sky subscription?
Whilst a would like sky to drop the charge for the rubbish channels and allow me to have free to air and movies and sports only this ain't likely to happen.
A secondary point re premiership footie - what is happening to the excellent football first live replayed and extended highlights packages on a Sat evening?
All you need is a DSAT receiver, Setanta Sports viewing card and a dish pointing at 28.2E.
A secondary point re premiership footie - what is happening to the excellent football first live replayed and extended highlights packages on a Sat evening?
Setanta Sports Package (including NASN) is only 14pounds per month on sky, compared to Sky Sports on Sky which is 17pounds..
so Setanta shows 46 games at 14pounds a month
Sky Sports shows 92 games at 17pounds a month plus Prem Plus.. which is 50pounds for its season.. usually prem-plus shows around 46 games.. so that means. that sky sports are showing 46 games at 17 pounds a month!
so all in all its not bad.. if u only like Premiership Footy then Setanta is a viable option.. that is unless they do PPV per match.. ala Prem Plus.. in which case we're all screwed...
to get sport on sky though am i not right in thinking you have to subscribe to all the other crap before you can subscribe to sports and then once you've added that it works out only a few pounds more to get movies. in total its 42.50. with setanta you'll probably have to subscribe seperately, but at least you'll proabably be able to do this without subscribing to other stuff. What i'm getting at is that at the moment skys pricing is done in a clever way, they know full well that if you could say pay 15 -20 pounds just for sport then many people would not bother with any of the other channels. Initially it will be worse for the consumer as they will have to pay more but the fact that there is now two providers will help to stimulate competetion and keep the price as low as possible
to get sport on sky though am i not right in thinking you have to subscribe to all the other crap before you can subscribe to sports and then once you've added that it works out only a few pounds more to get movies. in total its 42.50. with setanta you'll probably have to subscribe seperately, but at least you'll proabably be able to do this without subscribing to other stuff. What i'm getting at is that at the moment skys pricing is done in a clever way, they know full well that if you could say pay 15 -20 pounds just for sport then many people would not bother with any of the other channels.
Spot on.
Initially it will be worse for the consumer as they will have to pay more but the fact that there is now two providers will help to stimulate competetion and keep the price as low as possible
Again, it's only bad for those who are greedy enough to want to see all live EPL matches. For people who just want a few (and don't care who's playing) then it's an excellent deal.
The cheapest you can get Sky Sports is £34 a month. Of course you get rather more than just some Premiership games for your £34, whereas Setanta's other offerings are, er, niche.
I would think that Sky would be broadly happy with Setanta getting the gig. It means they lose their Premiership Plus thing, but there won't be a major move away from the Sky platform.
There is talk of Setanta showing the matches on freeview via top up TV - if there was a package say £10 a month via a freeview box I think a lot of people would ditch Sky. The only other channel I would miss is Sky One - esp. since Film Four is going to free view soon as well
I wish Nasn was in 16:9 and HD, You think the pic qulity on the football on setanta is bad you should see the pic qulity on the NASN channels it is very bad
My source at Setanta says they'll be investing "hugely" for the Premiership. If they're to be competitive, they'll have to offer HD. Am waiting for definite word on the HD issue now. All the OB contractors they'll be using will be HD/5.1 ready in any case.
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I would have liked the PL to tag the HD provision onto their content packages, barring that at least force 16:9 onto any broadcaster interested in bidding.
However the mighty EU who have no interest in footy except as a means to impose their will on the UK probably would have blocked any restriction that may have favoured a forwarding thinking and major investor such as SKY.
Then again it would have made things easier for the BBC to get a package.
Come the 2007/08 season the amount of HD footy will drop unless Setanta drastically change their current policy, if not then then hardly progress either in coverage or access.
As for HD it will be a while, Setanta don't have the funds compared to the mighty BBC and BSKYB. For me though I'am glad in a way cause I already have Setanta, so likely will not need to pay a Prem Plus Charge, though the quality on Prem Plus is great, likely with the new package deal everyone misses some quality because Prem Plus operates at a Higher Bitrate than Sky Sports.
Setanta is just bad.
Reason - now anyone wanting to watch all live premiership games will have to subscribe to Setanta in addition to Sky - thus costing more. :mad: :eek:
The only way this could ever have been better for the consumer is if one of the packages had to be on free to air.
Why is it, whenever the EU pokes its nose in then everyone suffers?
Just like SKY they have spent money they don't actually have yet, the cost of the footy will come out of the extra subscriptions they expect to generate.
The same business model was used by ITV Digital and well we know what happended there:)
What f***ing planet are you on - Setanta is a PPV channel at present - they are more liekly to increase there charges per month than make them free. :mad:
However that is the nature of pay-tv. If they can make you pay through the nose for something you had reasonable before they will.
Well they have to pay for the £390m some how, and now they have these rights they will have some bargaining power to increase their charges.
How do you receive it without a sky subscription?
Whilst a would like sky to drop the charge for the rubbish channels and allow me to have free to air and movies and sports only this ain't likely to happen.
A secondary point re premiership footie - what is happening to the excellent football first live replayed and extended highlights packages on a Sat evening?
Setanta Sports Package (including NASN) is only 14pounds per month on sky, compared to Sky Sports on Sky which is 17pounds..
so Setanta shows 46 games at 14pounds a month
Sky Sports shows 92 games at 17pounds a month plus Prem Plus.. which is 50pounds for its season.. usually prem-plus shows around 46 games.. so that means. that sky sports are showing 46 games at 17 pounds a month!
so all in all its not bad.. if u only like Premiership Footy then Setanta is a viable option.. that is unless they do PPV per match.. ala Prem Plus.. in which case we're all screwed...
I would think that Sky would be broadly happy with Setanta getting the gig. It means they lose their Premiership Plus thing, but there won't be a major move away from the Sky platform.
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