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the sky HD upgrade thread!

[Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 237
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well it had to come!
at least one intrepid owner has already upgraded their box

so:

tips on getting the warranty sticker off without damaging it please :cool:

discs that work please external or internal :D

obviously the 3GB/s maxtor 500GB SATA drive works (approx £170)
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what about the 750GB seagate SATA drive (approx £300, seagate now own Maxtor) :confused:

In view of the fact that it is now impossible to archive the sky HD box -in HD (ie no HD recorders/affordable HD capture cards as yet) it may be even important to install a bigger disk
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 166
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    rentagas wrote:
    tips on getting the warranty sticker off without damaging it please

    Why do you think I stuck a screwdriver through the sticker. I did try carefully taking up the corners, but its stuck down well. Could try soaking it off, but I don't think that will help the existing disc drive. Although its being replaced so what does it matter right :D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 237
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    Respect to the intrepid pioneer!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 194
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    Turps, nail varnish remover, even petrol lighter fuel - quite good for removing many stickers.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 237
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    Course you may be able to get a new/fake sticker and cover over the old one? :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 29
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    Hurrah I say - I finally found someone who has had a box installed.

    Please help!!!!

    I nearly went to Telewest but cancelled again because, when you select the HDMI port on the TVDrive, it turns off the RF (except the pass-through).

    Can you please tell me if this is the case with the Sky HD box?

    I have a distributed system throughout my house, which will allow me to watch the Sat output on other TV's via the aerial (RF), so I don't want to lose this function when I switch to HD (obviously the RF will only show SD).
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    bluestrawbluestraw Posts: 2,124
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    Wanderer,

    From another post yesterday on another thread, this does NOT seem to be the case. I can't confirm myself yet though (roll on Thursday - I hope!)

    ajm,

    Is your box still working happily with the 500Gb installed? Can you confirm you're getting a full 360Gb for yourself?

    All,

    Has anyone got any eSata cables to test the external port? I'd love to give that a go, but I've been "bumped" so no box yet for me...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 166
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    bluestraw wrote:
    ajm,

    Is your box still working happily with the 500Gb installed? Can you confirm you're getting a full 360Gb for yourself?

    All,

    Has anyone got any eSata cables to test the external port? I'd love to give that a go, but I've been "bumped" so no box yet for me...

    Its all been put back together this morning (almost as fun as taking it apart). I'll post the rest of the pictures this evening when I finish work.

    With each hour of programme (at least from Discovery HD and NatGeo HD), taking 8gb I had used 10% with the original disc after recording 2 hours (hence the 8gb per hour). So with the new disc I've now recorded 10 hours of programmes and I've got 79% free. So that means I should get about 40 hours, where I would have got 20 hours with the original disc.

    Of course if sky were nice and didn't waste 140gb, it would be almost 60 hours. Oh well.

    Have a look at the pictures I posted. They include some screen grabs (SD obviously) of my planner so you can check the space used.
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    I nearly went to Telewest but cancelled again because, when you select the HDMI port on the TVDrive, it turns off the RF (except the pass-through).

    Can you please tell me if this is the case with the Sky HD box?

    Definitely not the case. I currently have an old protable hooked up via RF using 4:3L format and the projector connected by HDMI and component.
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    Bill SBill S Posts: 124
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    rentagas wrote:
    tips on getting the warranty sticker off without damaging it please :cool:
    Kleeneze Sticky Stuff Remover - two drops and leave to soften - allow to evaporate before re-attach. :cool:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,340
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    Just wondering if anyone has tried connecting an esata drive to the external port yet?
    This seemed like the place to ask.
    Personally I would be surprised if it worked at the moment, but prepared to be pleasantly surprised.
    Dont have one or would try it myself and dont feel like forking out the money just to test it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 166
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    I've ordered a cable. You need E-Sata at the sky HD end and I've not got one of those yet. Hopefully it will arrive tomorrow.
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    ajm wrote:
    I've ordered a cable. You need E-Sata at the sky HD end and I've not got one of those yet. Hopefully it will arrive tomorrow.

    Nice one!
    Rapidly becoming my personal hero :D
    Cant wait to hear how it goes.
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    Colin_F wrote:
    Dont have one or would try it myself and dont feel like forking out the money just to test it.

    Well - for £6.48 - you can test it by yourself ... ;)
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    HEC wrote:
    Well - for £6.48 - you can test it by yourself ... ;)

    And of course the cost of a SATA drive.
    Only have IDE in my PC and not really in the market for a new one.
    Thanks for the link though.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 166
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    HEC wrote:
    Well - for £6.48 - you can test it by yourself ... ;)

    That's where I've ordered mine from.
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    I'm more interested in whether or not a second drive can be added in addition to the existing one (either externally or internally - as is the case with my TiVo). I look forward to someone trying this! Unfortunately I can't because a certain bunch of <enter choice of expletive here/> moved my date back. :D
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    rentagas wrote:
    well it had to come!
    at least one intrepid owner has already upgraded their box

    so:

    tips on getting the warranty sticker off without damaging it please :cool:

    discs that work please external or internal :D

    obviously the 3GB/s maxtor 500GB SATA drive works (approx £170)
    :D
    what about the 750GB seagate SATA drive (approx £300, seagate now own Maxtor) :confused:

    In view of the fact that it is now impossible to archive the sky HD box -in HD (ie no HD recorders/affordable HD capture cards as yet) it may be even important to install a bigger disk

    A Sky techie told me that the HDD in the HD box was 300GB, and that the user area had been limited to 160GB as the rest will be used in conjunction with the Video on demand service via Broadband and the ethernet connection. This will all be enabled later in the year.

    Therefore, whatever size disk you put in you will only have 160GB of usable space.

    What do we think?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 166
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    Well I put a 500gb in and I know programmes are now taking less percentage than they did with the 300gb. So, I've now got 360gb usable
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    francic wrote:
    A Sky techie told me that the HDD in the HD box was 300GB, and that the user area had been limited to 160GB as the rest will be used in conjunction with the Video on demand service via Broadband and the ethernet connection. This will all be enabled later in the year.

    Therefore, whatever size disk you put in you will only have 160GB of usable space.

    What do we think?

    There is every reason to think that the box reserves the first 140GB and everything else can be used by the consumer. This is the case with the 160GB version 3 sky plus boxes (80GB sky/80GB for the user). Interestingly a mistake in the software update left people with all the 160GB for themselves for a few days-only to have it clawed back by sky.
    Of course there may be a maximum size the boxes can address, as there was with the version 1 sky box before a recent update. In addition I can't remember anyone getting a disc bigger than 300GB to work in a sky plus box.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 39
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    I have a distributed system throughout my house, which will allow me to watch the Sat output on other TV's via the aerial (RF), so I don't want to lose this function when I switch to HD (obviously the RF will only show SD).

    Why don't you use one of those wireless video senders. I've been using them for a couple of years. The transmitter connects to Scart and you can have as many receivers as you like. Plus, you can change channels remotely as well.
    No need for RF!

    Ian.
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    joffononjoffonon Posts: 152
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    Why don't you use one of those wireless video senders. I've been using them for a couple of years. The transmitter connects to Scart and you can have as many receivers as you like. Plus, you can change channels remotely as well.
    No need for RF!

    Ian.

    My personal experience is that wireless composite is ever so slightly worse than wired RF. Given the frequency band is so heavily used these days (video senders, wireless networks, microwaves), I find the wireless picture in my kitchen often has interference.

    My goal is to have a wired distribution network over Cat5 cable that can deliver RGB and HD pictures round the house, though I don't think such a solution exists yet. :)
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    joffonon wrote:
    My goal is to have a wired distribution network over Cat5 cable that can deliver RGB and HD pictures round the house, though I don't think such a solution exists yet. :)

    I'll fetch the soldering iron...
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    HDTV extender


    If anyone has tried them I would like to know the results please.

    Thanks

    Appza
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,579
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    rentagas wrote:
    There is every reason to think that the box reserves the first 140GB and everything else can be used by the consumer. This is the case with the 160GB version 3 sky plus boxes (80GB sky/80GB for the user). Interestingly a mistake in the software update left people with all the 160GB for themselves for a few days-only to have it clawed back by sky.
    Of course there may be a maximum size the boxes can address, as there was with the version 1 sky box before a recent update. In addition I can't remember anyone getting a disc bigger than 300GB to work in a sky plus box.

    A number of people have reported using a 500gb drive to update HD with success - although it is early days.

    Haven't seen anyone report update using a larger drive.

    Interestingly, I wonder if the increased disk size also now applies to normal sky+ boxes?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 395
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    srhill wrote:
    A number of people have reported using a 500gb drive to update HD with success - although it is early days.

    Haven't seen anyone report update using a larger drive.

    Interestingly, I wonder if the increased disk size also now applies to normal sky+ boxes?

    AFAIK you can put a 500Gb disk into SKY+ boxes but it does not allow you to perform a FSR. You will need to use pcbbc's Copy+ software to copy the contents from your old drive or initialise the new one before swapping the drives over. After that it appears to work a treat.
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