Doctor Who: Doomsday pre-air discussion 8th July 2006
KrisHayward
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The Official Site has been updated, Cool Dalek and Cyberman Front Page ! :cool:
and there will be teaser clips at 12pm every day
Here is Mondays Teaser.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/mediawrapper/consoles/drwhonew/nb_rm_console.shtml?nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1
The Official Site has been updated, Cool Dalek and Cyberman Front Page ! :cool:
and there will be teaser clips at 12pm every day
Here is Mondays Teaser.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/mediawrapper/consoles/drwhonew/nb_rm_console.shtml?nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1
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Better than
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/doomsday.shtml
Just going with the flow. By the way tomorrow is
[spolier]...the cybermen go to the daleks to discuss a joint take-over?[/spoiler]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/mediawrapper/consoles/drwhonew/bb_rm_console.shtml?pack1-13b_16x9
The Cybermen look pretty cool too. I am looking forward to seeing the battle - although I think the Daleks will clean up.
I always wondered if the original Cybermen ever met/battled the Daleks - and whether these new Cybermen will be aware of the Daleks (in other words, if there were Daleks in the alt.Earth universe too!).
The big 7 questions for me are:
- Obviously, what's in the Genesis arc/ark?
- do these Daleks come from the Time War or did they survive last year's battle?
- If they come from last year's story, will they remember what Rose (Bad Wolf) did?
- why is Mickey acting so strangely? surely its not just his time fighting the cybermen on alt-Earth?
- what will Jackie say when she sees Pete again?
- does Captain Jack reappear (I can't help but think there will be just too much going on)
- how does Rose leave?
All very exciting!!I think that also applies to how far back in time he will go when relating old events to new ones. So even the Time War is probably going too far back in time as a solution for what is inside the Genesis Ark.
More likely it has to do with the Dalek Emperor that got deleted from time and space or whatever...
So maybe this is some sort of safety mechanism that it deployed during its 100 year reign on Earth.
Maybe they've turned to Landlords...
"You - have - not - paid - your - rent. EVICT - EVICT - EVICT!"
Doomsday is plainly and simply a case of the Cybermen looking to take over our Earth as they passed through a 'doorway' which was inadvertantly opened by Torchwood, because they were trying to use the energy to find out the secret of the Void ship that the Daleks were hiding in.
As the doorway opened to let the army of ghosts fully appear as Cybermen, the amount of energy generated stimulaled the void ship into opening up... lo and behold The Daleks appear.
Now then, they have their own agenda - to retrieve the Genesis Arc, which is held in Torchwood, because as they say, "If it's alien - it's ours!" (I'm sure we'll find out what's in it on Saturday.)
Obviously, the Daleks weren't expecting to find all these Cybermen around, so that creates a war between them both.
Also, to rain on the daleks parade even further - will be the unexpected presence of The Doctor and Rose.
How they stop everything remains to be seen - don't forget, Captain Jack will appear in this Saturday's episode... and it will still end on a cliff hanger for the Christmas episode.
As for Roses' death - No, sorry. She'll end up on alternate Earth with Micky, her mum and Alternate Dad. Maybe she has to go there to help seal the doorway between the alternate Earth and our Earth afterwhich there will be no going back.
Her life with the Doctor will be over, despite her wishes to be travelling with him "forever" which we saw in AoG, she'll regard it as though she may as well have died.
And why haven't the Cybermen deleted The Doctor, I would have thought after their last encounter the last thing they would want would be a live Doctor - or is this the usual "bad guys behaving stupidly"
Read my last post - It points out that The Genesis Arc was already in the possesion of Torchwood
Perhaps the Ark is hidden in the Mummy case - will we see the Daleks saying "Are you my Mummy?"
As for Rose - remember when she was Bad Wolf, she said something like 'I create myself'. I wonder if there is a link between that and the fact that there is no Rose Tyler on alt.Earth.
Maybe Rose didn't create Bad Wolf - maybe Bad Wolf created Rose, an event that is specific only to Rose's Earth, which is why she doesn't exist in the other universe.
If so, maybe Rose is the key to defeating them all again.
In your opinion.
If you go back and watch a bit more carefully, the Arc is behind the daleks as they come out of the void sphere.
i reckon whoever said about rose going to alternate earth is the best bet because i'm sure i heard somewhere about her mking an appearance maybe she'll do a sarah jane but of course she'll be in an alternate universe of course we do thow that the doctor will save the day he always does but it's jut the wait to see how he does it that kills me and even though i know he'll get out of theb situation i can't help thinking what if he doesn't :eek: lol
i didn't really watch the old old series but i reckon that maybe the 'ghosts' of the cybermen will do what the dalecks did last year. Remeber rose was shot by a dalek and even though we all thought she might be dead turned out she was on board the dalecks ship so maybe the cybermen will just return to the alternative world but like someone already said rose (and mickey) will need to close the whole or whatever.
i know i know the theorys probably ridiculous but nm! just my opinion!
some one said about the ark or whatever being a weapon of the drs maybe it was and the doctor ent it to himslef or gave it to the dalecks under false pretenses or something!! lol now that is crazy