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Panasonic DMR-ES10 Finalizing
Hi Guys n Gals
Question.
When finalizing a disc, shouldn't I be able to play the finalised disc in an ordinary DVD player or PC DVD Drive?
I have recorded numerous discs so far (all DVD-R) and finalized them - however I cannot play them on my PC's DVD drive or on my Sony DVP-NS700 either. The Sony gives the message "cannot play disc". The PC drive just spins amd spins and spins...
Putting it into my Panasonic DMR-ES10 (or my mother's for that matter) - no problems. Index works, plays fine, etc, etc.
Am I doing something really stupid or am I missing a basic fact here?
Zaph
Question.
When finalizing a disc, shouldn't I be able to play the finalised disc in an ordinary DVD player or PC DVD Drive?
I have recorded numerous discs so far (all DVD-R) and finalized them - however I cannot play them on my PC's DVD drive or on my Sony DVP-NS700 either. The Sony gives the message "cannot play disc". The PC drive just spins amd spins and spins...
Putting it into my Panasonic DMR-ES10 (or my mother's for that matter) - no problems. Index works, plays fine, etc, etc.
Am I doing something really stupid or am I missing a basic fact here?
Zaph
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My first go at finalising a DVD-R today (on a Sony disc) played fine on both my PC and on a cheapo Skyworth player.
I had some unbranded DVD-R's which I got with my NEC DVD Dual-Layer drive from Scan Computers. It writes tp these fine. Also bought a pack of 50 Philips DVD-R (4.7GB, 120 min, 1-8x speed) from Staples and it writes to those fine too.
Only thing I'm not too impressed with is the time it takes to 'read' the discs after closing the drawer (approaching 1 min) :eek:
Is it the discs I am using?
Can you recommend any (other than Panasonic - obviously)? It's a bit of a pain that I can't watch them on any other DVD player other than the DMR-ES10's!!
Zaph
The pack of 50 Philips DVD-R (4.7GB, 120 min, 1-8x speed) from Staples were either £9.99, £11.99 or £14.99 (I can't remember which).
Even at £9.99 this would make my Philips discs 20p each (compared the Sony discs from Woollies at 120p each (6x the price) :eek:
At £14.99 the comparison is more favourable at 30p each
Maybe try a pack and see . . .
Will report back and let you know.
How much do the Panasonic DVD-RAM discs work out at?
Also, can you edit out the advertising breaks after transferring stuff from (say) your Sky+ box with DVD-RAM?
Zaph
The Panasonic DVD-RAM discs came with the machine (Xmas present), but they seem to go for about £2 each at Dixons, in packs of either 5 or 10.
Haven't tried editing out any ad breaks yet.
Zaph
Can't figure out at the mo whether it is the recoder or the discs. Tending towards the discs at the moment. Since I have two identical recodrers (well, OK, my Mum has one and I have one) and both record fine but the finalised discs won't play on my laptop or on my Sony DVP-NS700 from either recorder - that's what makes me think it is the discs.
Have emailed Panasonic CS with query - will post the answer
here later.
Zaph
Will report back when I've received a reply.
Zaph
Thanks for that.
Well . . .
Still no reply from Panasonic CS. So much for 24hr return reply!
Will try again.
Zaph
Some drive manufacturers (e.g. Plextor) post lists of which discs work well in their drives. If you're lucky you may find a make in common. If not, it's trial and error: you'll probably have more luck with name brand discs (e.g. TDK, Maxell, Verbatim, etc etc) but it's not guaranteed. Unfortunately, since both Sony and Panasonic market own-brand discs, they are probably just going to tell you to use those.......
When you find a brand that works, buy yourself a stock, and stick with it!!
I'm using WinDVD creator for editing ads etc out of Vob files, but for some reason there are audio sync issues. It's hard to explain, but say for example I've recorded a 20 minute episode of 'Lazytown' and preview it in WinDVD creator, it plays all the way through except that the audio goes out of sync. If I then save the file as an MPEG or AVI, the audio re-sync's but the file cuts off before the end of the episode!
I've noticed that smart ripper seems to think that vobs recorded by the Panasonic are in NSTC format for some reason.
Anyway, maybe someone has had a similar problem and can help out... I've had an easier time of it 'backing up' copyrighted DVD's than this! Cheers.
Fisrstly, my email to them:
And their reply Hope that you find this info useful, especially the bit about the 'Data or General Use' discs being PC disks and "are not compatible with the unit."
Zaph
Thanks
They also tried the discs in their other shop which sells a few brands and found no problems with new dvd players that support dvd-r.
So I'm wondering whether my 40s stutter is due to the basic differences in design between dvd-rom and dvd-r in that older players may not be fully compatibile.
Looking back my PC dvd player was released in 1998, and my dvd player probably in 2002 (though may be based on an older board design?).
I've got a few discs to do for my kids playgroup so I'll see if there are any whinges about poor playback, and how old their players are.
I got hold of a new LG dvd re-writer which reads DVD-Ram (for £35) and a copy of TMPGENC. Happy as a pig in shit :cool:
Zaph
Tmpgenc
It reads the MPEG's recorded on DVD-RAM's etc and transfers them over to my PC so I can edit them. I couldn't do this by just copying the files over because my editing software was saying the files were not PAL, were only 20 mins long when in fact they were an hour, and the audio would run out of synch with the video etc.
I've only got the demo, but think I'll buy it because it's quite a handy piece of software