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Mockneys, cockneys, essex twang and poshheads
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I watched Preston with some interest, the words he is capable of expressing were at odds with the his deliverance and he would occasionally expose himself to be a fraud (do you know what I mean), why do people think they need to be something else to get ahead and is this why we took Chantelle to our hearts because she remained what she is, why then did people have an issue with Dennis and the way he spoke, he was certainly "keeping it real" and did we take offence to Faria because of her clarity? I've been pontificating this for a while now and would like thoughts ya get me blud
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Faria spoke english but is a nasty piece of work in some peoples opinions.
Chantelle..even dumber
Jodie = spolt brat
Jodie = 27 year old women who has a hissy fit and cry crocodile tears every time people disagree with her
is he really dumb though or just keeping his options open. I watched a video link of his song and they looked like a bunch of posh boys leaping around not serious rockers
That's true but I think of the Jamie Olivers and Johnny Vaughan and Guy Ritchie of this world all privileges people pretending to be something they are not and looking idiotic for it
I find that when I am away from Brighton and talking with people with different accents my own diction smooths out and I use less of the local vernacular, but when I visit home or am with people with similar accents then mine becomes stronger.
This is not a conscious thing and I noticed Preston acted in exactly the same way. His accent was more pronounced when talking to Chantelle, Michael & Jodie, but smoothed out when talking with the other HMs.
VoR
thanks for your view VoR I am genuinely interested which is why I started the thread and good to get another perspective. I still stand by my view though :cool:
I'd agree with that..I have family in Bognor and they all speak very much like Preston.
One interesting point for anyone who is interested in the way our local accents are changing..when I first moved to East Herts, about 15 years ago, most of the people spoke with very broad, almost Suffolk accents..now I hardly ever hear that spoken anymore and the predominant accent is, what I can only describe as Mockney, although there are still certain words that are pronounced very "broadly"
http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/estuary/whatis.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A853003
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/routesofenglish/storysofar/programme3_4.shtml
http://www.universalteacher.org.uk/lang/estuary.htm
http://geoffbarton.co.uk/files/student-resources/A%20Level/Accent%20Dialect/Estuary%20English.doc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/e-cyclopedia/383359.stm
More examples of the same may be found here :
http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/estuary/home.htm
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People up north have been mumbling and dropping words and pronouncing everything incorrectly for years.
The word 'the' is rarely used up there. "Take t' car round to garage and get tire back from our Kev"
I dont see how thats any worse an abuse of the English language than people from Essex and surrounding areas.
Read the articles - there's a positive side, too .....
Oh I dont need to read the articles I'm aware of the positive side. Estuary english has now become the flowerbed of modern language.
Estuary english could be the last resort of the intellectually-challenged
Unless it's estewawy, innit
I guess because someone comes from the south and have a regional accent its perfectly acceptable to attack them for it.
You really haven't read the articles, have you ?
Estuary English is no longer a regional accent :cool:
Its because in the south we are more advanced and civilised. We travel so over time accents generally do blend into one. If we all lived in mud-huts and never ventured outside then maybe things, like in the north would be different.
The origins of EE are incoming influences
yeah, defnutly, innit, nowotameen
I'm a proper cockney...born within the sound of the Bow Bells..and I have no problem with any accent or dialect..as long as I can understand what people are saying, and they dont use abusive or offensive language, it makes absolutely no difference to me how they choose to speak
The English language has always been an organic thing...there is no reason for it to stop now
Very true - the English of Shakespeare's time would be totally inintelligible to most of us :eek: